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"All across the country, proprietors, landlords and residents associations are privately, voluntarily implementing smoking bans," says the Cato Institute's Tom Firey (surely no pun intended). "Because those actions are voluntary and private, market forces will lead to the provision of establishments and housing for both nonsmokers and smokers. This is fitting in a free society that values choice and respects the individual. It also protects public health -- people who don't want to be around tobacco smoke, whether out of health concerns or dislike of the smell and nuisance, don't ave to be around tobacco smoke.

"This legislation [banning smoking in apartments, as proposed in some California jurisdictions] does not respect individual choice and it is not motivated by concern for public health. It is social conservatism pure and simple -- some politicians want to use their office to impose their personal morality on other people."

My first thought was that this was a nice takedown of a characteristic liberal fallacy (all good things should be required by law), and a good example of how markets can promote live-and-let-live. My second thought was that it was also a nice example of a characteristic libertarian fallacy (we're all individuals with no more basic interdependency than a bunch of billiard balls).

How exactly does the market protect the health of smokers' children? I don't think that question refutes Cato's case, because not everything that's bad for kids can be outlawed without producing even worse effects -- but it does suggest that libertarians have a shallow understanding of the way people live together.

IOW, my decisions to smoke, or to leave my motorcycle helmet at home, rarely affect only me. Sometimes it's best to think and legislate as if they do, but exactly when is the question for political philosophers.


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John Powers
October 8th - 10:20 a.m.
Harold,
I think you have boiled down the issue here.

1) How does the market protect the health of smoker's children? Not very well, in my opinion.

2) How does regulation protect the health of smoker's children? Not very well, in my opinion.

We are still left with the side effects of smoke, with or without another law on the books. It is quite clear that smokers are irrational in their pursuit of a smoke. However, does going through the motion of making another law help out here?

JBP
so-called "Austin Mayor"
October 8th - 2:49 p.m.
HH,

You have identified the central hole in libertarianism: What about the children?

There is a reason that Ayn Rand's novels are unburdened by children and the doubts their "parasitic" "moocher" nature would raise.

By failing to address the question of children, libertarianism cannot be a philosophy for adults.

-- SCAM
Harold
October 8th - 3:11 p.m.
Nicely summarized, guys. I don't know whether the proposed law's a good idea or not -- but if it's a good idea, it's not simply because smoking is bad; and if it's a bad idea, it's not simply because it interferes with the freedom to smoke. There need to be additional reasons than the usual boilerplate on each side. I'd suggest a tax or surcharge on parents who smoke in the presence of their children, with the revenue dedicated to taking care of the children's future health problems -- but who would stop some future Blagojevich from raiding the fund so that he can pretend he can give people something for nothing?
John Powers
October 9th - 7:17 a.m.
HH,
You are 2 for 2 on this one. Whenever someone gets out their Jan Schakowsky wind-up doll to chant "what about the children", it follows that there is a tax coming in the next paragraph to fund more government mischief with kids being dumped back in their usual place in the cellar.

There is also a question of privacy. How would we police a "tax on parents who smoke in presence of their children"? Video sureveillance in every home? Probably easier to just raise the overall tax, but the money just evaporates anyway.

Complex issue.
JBP



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