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FacebookTrust me -- the last thing I want to do is wade in the muck of 49th Ward politics. 'Cause, lord knows, you're all a bunch of lunatics up there.
But, gulp, here I am . . .
I posted yesterday about Don Gordon taking a surprisingly strong stand against construction on Park District property, and that prompted alderman Joe Moore to give me a ring.
"Looks like you're endorsing Don Gordon," he told me.
Well, not really -- just saying I like what he said at the meeting and wished he had said it when he was running for office against you last year.
"Anyone who knows Don Gordon will tell you that in that election his main criticism of me was that I was too critical of the mayor," said Moore. "He was very critical of me in supporting the living wage."
Well, as long as I have you on the phone, how about the latest rumor I'm hearing from your opponents: as soon as Barack Obama's elected president -- if, of course, he is elected -- you'll step down to take a job in his administration and handpick Jim Ginderske as your replacement.
Moore laughed and said: "Yeah, I'm kind of gunning for attorney general. Give me a break. That shows you how delusional and out to lunch they are. They're not going to get rid of me that easy . . . "
The funny thing is that, given Mayor Daley's attitude toward council independents, he probably wouldn't fill Moore's vacancy with anyone Moore recommended. Back in 1990, when former alderman David Orr became county clerk, Daley selected Bob Clarke over Moore, Orr's preference for the vacancy.
One year later Moore defeated Clarke in the regularly scheduled aldermanic election and the rest, as they say, is history.
The irony of ironies is that Gordon probably stands a better chance of getting Daley's nod than Ginderske or anyone else Moore might recommend -- or at least he did until he started sounding off against one of the mayor's pet causes.
My advise to Ginderske, Gordon, or anyone else who wants to become alderman is to suck up to Mayor Daley, praise his vision, and, most important, endorse the Olympics, no matter how much parkland it paves over. That's still the best bet to get ahead in this town.
1. are you the fox tv source?
2. did you get your info from avila?
3. does avila pay your kids school tuition?
4. does baby avila do your legal representation free of charge?
5. did avila give you a job once at MW?
CoCoRAT this is not a CofC water management report where you lied and gave false information and got fired and rightfully so. but be honest this time. CoCoRAT beware now we are watching you and avila. your turn to be exposed. soon everyone will see you are the joke.
Now, aren't you the pot calling the kettle black?
It's always pervertedly impressive, how the biggest liars, cheaters, thieving schemers, connivers, manipulators and brown noses have the chutzpa to post statements like "....but be honest this time.".
Take your own advice, if you dare.
This assertion is conter-factual.
Moore's voting record is overwhelmingly rubber-stamp, back-bench, pro-Daley, punctuated once or twice a term with ineffectual though highly-publicized stunt votes. Those stint votes are apparently enough for Moore and his apologists to spin an alternate reality in which Moore is the lost son of Leon Dupres.
Moore's characterizations of his opponent's positions are unreliable. No one who is familiar with Moore's City Council voting record would assess it as overly at odds with Daley, rather, Moore chooses to occasionally poke Daley in the eye on issues of no significance to his constituents.
That goes for ALL Alderman. They talk a good game, than vote with the Mayor like a house of cards. Alderman Joe Moore sponsored the WhistleBlowers act. When I went to him after I was fired from the City in 2005 , I wanted to file as a whistleblower. Alderman Moore blew Pat McDrunkin, Charles Walker,Jimmy Osborne and I off! The result is,it sent a message to all City Workers to shut up when they see corruption.
I suppose you believe in santa too!
July 26th - 6:06 p.m.
Hey Guys the problem is bigger than your vacillating Alderman. The Daley Machine is the problem. The city will soon have massive layoffs , due to corruption more than a bad Ecomony. Bad Management waste and corruption,will have us all living in a tent cities, or living behind our locked doors with loaded weapons. When some of us are living under viaducts and watch the clout drive by in Free Government vehicles, then we will know what clout is.
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Hopefully, President Obamawill rid the 49th Ward of the scourge that is Joe Moore by insuring that enough investigators nail Moore's butt in federal court. Rest assured, given Moore's track record, that will not be that difficult.
People always think of me, and not as a loser. I am everthing they wish they could be. Someone with the balls to stand up to the bully politicians. They attack me because they fear me. My website is not my strength , knowledge is my best weapon. Thats why the MWRD is in trouble now. Next.......
CoCoRAT says he is guoted when he rats on someone and that is bullshit. CoCoRAT is a idiot but not dumb enuf to take the blame.
"Looks like you're endorsing Don Gordon," he told me.
Did Moore read your post? He thought it was an endorsement?
This is typical Moore. Moore probably called your editor when he was done with you. Moore is very jealous of his image. We would all be better off if Moore put into his ward a fraction of the effort he puts into haranguing the press.
Well, Ben, while you had one of our esteemed Village Elders on the horn, did you ask,
How about your one lonely vote against the LaSalle TIF district? From your vote in favor of every TIF district and every TIF project before & since, apparently it was not a harbinger of a policy shift. What's up with that?
What were your thoughts when you voted in favor of Daley's $500M City bond guarantee for the Olympics?
O Great Leader of the City Council Progressives (Just Ask Him), any breaking news on your efforts to hire a budget analyst? Um, any breaking news at all? Anything?
What is your reaction to the IVI-IPO recommendation of a moratorium on TIFs? Will you seek the IVI-IPO endorsement in the future? Will knowing that the IVI-IPO will be most likely be including a candidate survey question on TIF and looking at TIF voting records of incumbents affect your support of TIF going forward?
To all City Workers , keep hiding and keeping your mouth shut, your Unions will take care of you.
HA! Ha! Ha!
In the first elecction, more than half of the voting public stated they wanted Joe fired. Can you imagine that after more than 15 years in office? Half of your "customers" want you fired?
Joe then proceeded to spend record amounts of money for a little neighborhood run-off, dragging in the unions to bully for him and otherwise pull every lying, dirty trick in the book to ultimately pull ahead by a couple hundred votes.
His response is behave like the smug to anyone he perceives as a non-supporter. Just like he called you to draw that line in the sand, to make you declare which side you are on.
His actions are so remarkably slimy and his performance so below par that there is no way in hell the "them" half of his ward will ever support him.
Therefore, Joe is in a constant state of battle. It's impossible for him to build consensus, so he'll never get community-wide support for anything. At least half of his ward will always be against anything he proposes. They will also be suspect of his true motives.
And that, if you think about it, is why he can never do his job effectively.
And don't even get me started on his efforts to undermine Mayor Daley. Joe simply isn't bright enough to even play in that game.
Jim was the first guy knocked out of the last aldermanic election; however, he's willing to suck up to Joe, so that's the guy Joe is going to back.
Joe surrounds himself with folks less competent than himself because they won't challenge him.
That's why the 49th ward is stuck with a bunch of idiots trying to run the place.
And of course he's looking for a new job. I think Joe knows he'll never be fully supported in his current position. He's blown it and needs to go elsewhere.
yes!
Back in the Day,
Thats why I picked that song. When that song was out, people had guts to stand up!
Check the campaign contribution records -- Joe represents North Shore real estate dealers and contractors.
That's without getting into the lying ACORN fliers his buddies at SEIU/ACORN (it's one office) stonewall and lie about.
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One year later Moore defeated Clarke in the regularly scheduled aldermanic election ... "
Daley appointed Clarke in December, 1990. In a multi-way race in February 1991, Clarke forced Moore into a run-off. Moore narrowly defeated Clarke in the run-off April 2, 1991, the 2nd closest race of Moore's career.
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mary o'connor will keep everything the same. Todd Stroger, Mayor Daley, high taxs, lay-offs of City workers, 4 day work weeks. Yes Mcdonough the 41st ward is in the same direction as everyone. Working class families being eliminated! You are smart to have helped her.
Ben and Mick how about a forum on coco and his relationship with the dos avilas. Let them answer the questions.
Lets have the forum in DesPlaines at Pat McDonoughs house. His wife is a great hostess and Pat McDonough can shine our shoes while we are talking.
It takes 2 to tango.
On one side, we have the Daley minions, primarily 'orion', '11th man' and the "to the first degree" piece of work, and, on the other hand, there's Coconate and, under various monickers, Patty McDonough.
These are the main knuckleheads playing blog-pong.
It's disappointing that other, slightly more numerous posters with intelligence and insight have allowed the above miscreants to substantially abandon utilizing this blog for it's intended purpose, namely, generating the width and breadth of discourse and input from the readers.
Apparently, the visitors to this blog don't have nearly the passion to express their opinions, thoughts and ideas as those who regularly visit, and comment, the SCC site:
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/
Perhaps because there is a difference between those who only think, and those who both think and act?
See what I mean?
Are the intelligent, thoughtful guys and gals going to let these miscreants piss and shit all over this blog?
The editors of the Reader may not choose to delete this nonsense, but they don't have to; all those with valid comments have to do is post them, and ignore the babbling of the mentally ill.
Any takers?
I have kept my eye on the prize since 1998. I knew than what the Irish Outfit had in it's plan. It's hard to beat them when most people are scared to stand up. The majority does not like the Daley's, but until there is a alternative, the Daley's will continue to roll over people . I will continue to throw road-blocks, but it's hard enough to overcome Daley's spin doctors, than you have a idiot that I helped , helping the Daley's destroy me. Pat McDonough was created by Frank Avila and I, we are both sorry we did it!
In regards to observer,
People come to this board for the free buffet of information. if you don't like it , to come on it! It's not our fault intelligent, thoughtful guys and gals like lust more than making love.
GANGBANGER SUES AVILA IN GANGBANGER CASE !!!
www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1031015,CST-NWS-gator3...